Uldir Raid Pre-Planning Meeting Minutes

Wow, guys! What an amazing turnout. We’d like to thank everyone who listened to us and asked good questions about the plans we have for raiding this tier. We hope to see you!

Below is the agenda and the meeting minutes, all information you’ll need to be ready for raids, and more!

Raid Pre-Planning Meeting Agenda:

  • Introduction from the Warlords
  • Rules and Regulations changes
  • Where to Find Important Announcements
  • Required Pre-Raid Reading / Viewing
  • Other Helpful Informatives
  • Helping the Raid Pre-Uldir
  • Raid Loot Distribution and Rolling
  • Raid Composition for Week 1
  • Minimum Requirements for Raiding
  • Q&A

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New Discord feature: assign professions, classes, more!

With a huge influx of new members and changes to crafting professions in BFA, I thought now would be an excellent time to test out and implement a new feature in Discord! Khadgar-Bot just got a little more useful. In addition to his other functions, you can assign yourself labels in Discord to show off your profession, class, role, and more. The how-to is immediately below, but if you want to know the “why”, you can skip ahead to the bottom.

Where to Use the new Features

You’ll find a brand new channel called #member-roles under the “General Chatter” category of Discord.

Setting up the Basics

If you’re new to the Discord, you can assign yourself one of two Discord roles: Member, or Friends of MoD. Member is for members (obviously). Friends of MoD are for those on other servers who have PUGed in, aren’t/don’t want to switch servers, etc. You may not be in the guild, but we love to have you!

To set this up, type in one of the two following commands:

!rank Member
!rank Friends of MoD

Please note that “Friends” is plural!

After you’ve set up your relation to the guild, you can set up your class like below:

!rank warlock
!rank demonhunter

You can join multiple classes if you use multiple classes! Also, any two-word phrase becomes one word; demon hunter became demonhunter.

Then, add your professions. All professions – including secondary professions – are included, except for archaeology.

!rank fishing
!rank leatherworking
!rank herbalism

Finally, you can add your “dungeon/raid role” as well:

!rank dps
!rank tank
!rank healer

Here is a list of all joinable ranks (as of this posting), as well as the command to query the list:

Finding others in a Rank / Role

Once you’ve added your own ranks, you can list everyone in a rank!

!memberlist healer

You can use !memberlist for any rank.

!memberlist paladin
!memberlist enchanting
!memberlist tank

Remember: profession ranks are only able to be called as they are written in game. Thus, you would write “leatherworking” and not “leatherworker”. Also, lists are singular – you would ask for the “paladin” list, not the “paladins” list.

Why Assign Yourself Roles? Why Query Others?

Originally, I had it planned for folks only to be able to tag themselves as a particular class. You could then use the memberlist to find others to talk to about pros and cons of different DPS specs, figure out what weakauras they prefer, figure out how they’re dealing with specific mechanics, and more.

As I started working on Khadgar, I realized it would be great to include profession information as well. The Scrapper gives us an unlimited supply of materials – many of which we do not even need. But, someone else can benefit! If you have an excess of blood-stained bones, and don’t want to sell them, you can query !memberlist leatherworking and see if any of them have a need for the item. If you’re not sure how to find your next flask recipe, !memberlist alchemy will give you the names of a number of people who might be able to point you in the right direction.

Almost as soon as I implemented this on the Discord, requests came in to set a person’s role/rank in regards to their dungeon and raid role. If your usual dungeon group is lacking specific roles, you can plan ahead by seeing who in !memberlist healer is going to be available when you sign on later.

You can also use memberlists as cross-references. Are you looking for advice on how to handle certain mechanics as a resto shaman? You can cross-reference !memberlist healer and !memberlist shaman to see who else might be able to work with you on this.

Assign Roles in the Channel; Discuss Results Elsewhere

Please don’t use the !memberlist, !rank, etc commands outside of the #member-roles channel. The channel can be muted (and I suggest doing so) because it’s very spammy. Using these commands in other channels will cause a lot of unnecessary blips. I’ll be purging the channel every once in a while so people don’t have to scroll to see usage instructions.

If you’ve found what you’re looking for (another rogue to ask questions of, a tank for your dungeons, etc), use the #general channel to discuss and plan. Others may be able to chime in or benefit from the discussion at hand. Plus this way the conversation won’t get lost when the channel is purged, or even cut-off mid-sentence.

I continue to try to push out quality of life changes and add new, useful, and fun features to the website for the guild. If you have an idea or a suggestion, fill out the Feedback form and let me know! Is something broken? Submit a Bug Report!

How to Participate in Raid Meeting Q&A

We expect a big turnout for the Uldir Raid Info meeting on Thursday. 50+ people have signed up. If even half of those who signed up attend, it’s going to get real crazy in the Discord channel. Please mute your microphone during the meeting and do not ask questions or speak up out of turn. Hold off on questions and commentary until the very end. Anyone who speaks up out of turn may find themselves muted and even removed from the channel.

If you have questions before (or that arise during) the meeting, keep track of them in a notepad or otherwise on your own device. Don’t ask/type them during the meeting until Q&A time, please. It will only distract yourself and others and you may miss important information while the Raid Leads are talking.

There will be a post in the Raiding Announcements channel that will have a hand emoji react on it. If you have a question (or several), please react to it. We’ll be answering questions based on the names that react to the post. This is to keep 20 people from speaking up at once all over one-another. Once your question or questions have been answered, feel free to un-react to the post (this is especially useful if multiple people have the same question).

One or more of us will be taking minutes during the meeting so we can share and reference all the information we cover as well as the questions that we didn’t anticipate ahead of time.

Mount Quest item share: Child of Pa'ku available!

The drop for the month-long Mount quest (think Un’goro crater or the raptors from Legion) is available! A number of people in the guild are beginning to acquire the quest because IT IS SHAREABLE!

You can read more about the steps to get your mount from this guide: https://www.wowhead.com/how-to-ptrain-your-pterrordax-kuafon-guide

How to Get it

Step one: Find someone who already has the quest “A Child of Pa’ku” in their quest log. It MUST be this intro quest, none of the others will work.
Step two: Join a group they are in
Step three: They will share the quest with you
Step four: You are now on the quest!

Pay it Forward

All we ask is that if you receive the shared quest from a guildmate, please wait a day (that is, after the daily reset time) before starting the journey to receive the mount. Then if a guild mate wants the quest, you can quickly add them and follow the steps above to help them along on their journey.

Currently, Urostek and Quetzie both have it, as well as a handful of others. Assuming we’re not busy, just request to join the group. You can also ask in guild chat if anyone is available. Just point them to this post for more information!

Reminder: AOTC Bird Photo Submission!

If you raided with us at all this season and have attained AOTC, don’t forget to submit your mount photo! (You don’t have to have gotten AOTC with us!)

How to do it is detailed in this post.

I’ll be adding any one who has submitted a picture and posting the shot I took last week on Tuesday! This photo will be used as part of the promotional images on the site.

Weekly Raid Roundup: July 10 - 16

This will be my last wrap-up until BfA and Uldir. pre-patch is going to be hectic, and we’ll be focusing more on personal changes to classes and how to raid with those changes, than on raid mechanics.

Wednesday: Heroic Lower

We had a few new & returning players to our heroic run this week!

Imonar we got a little too excited and too hasty on, with crossing the bridge the second time. We’ve become a little overconfident, and a little lax in being careful. As a result we had a wipe at only 6% health left. Raid Lead Reminder: stay behind the tanks! There’s no point in getting there first and missing heals or stepping in something bad.

Kin’Garoth, similarly, had a few mechanics issues. We had early Ruiner deaths across the board. We try to give ample time for calling out Ruined ahead of time, but you should all have timers that show when these things are being cast (especially you new folks). Raid Lead Reminder: Keep an ear out for important callouts. Ruiner and balls are both avoidable medhanics. We’ll do our best to help you by making others cut extraneous chatter.

Varimathras had tank issues again. Our first pull was really good. After that, we could barely get between two movement rotations before wiping. Once we got those issues sorted out, we downed him.

Wednesday Logs

Saturday: We did it, Reddit!

WE DOWNED COVEN!

It only took us 3 attempts that night. Basically, we needed decent RNG on the add phases. If we could have everyone up for the healing adds, we were golden. We finally got a good one, and took those bitches down.

After that, we rolled onto Aggramar for a while, and then Argus. Aggramar had 4 wipes, including one that was very nearly a kill. Mostly, we’re struggling on add management and CC. Our first add phase will often go well, while the second…is a mess. We also had the large adds brought too close to one another, or too close to smaller adds, on a couple occasions. Aggramar is….aggravating…and requires us to be very precise in our movements.

Saturday Logs

Sunday: Bonus Argus Kill

I didn’t take logs. We killed him, for the first time, with no PUGs. It was great to get one final kill in on Heroic before the squish and great to do it “alone”. It’s been a great season and that was a lovely way to wrap it up.

Monday: Alt Night

First off, we had no wipes. That doesn’t happen much, especially not when we go for a record-setting 9 kills on raid bosses.

We had a very good and relaxed time. We had multiple tanks at points, multiple people under our minimum requirements (last night before squish – why not have some fun with it?), and plenty of fresh faces. We hope you guys will come back! Here’s some quick tips on the various fights:

Garothi: DPS should run decimation to the right-hand side of the screen.

Coven: Melee should never be on Noura; make sure not to stand close to one another when we have lightning adds; don’t stand in the middle during flames!

Aggramar: Everybody did a great job. We can tell that the newbies did a great job listening to raid lead calls and really worked hard here. We had only two deaths!

Argus: We could use a few more DPS paying attention to when orbs spawn, and some of the blights were messy. Make sure to bring blights back as far as possible in phase 1. Conversely, move the buff drops to the right. Be good about practicing only interrupting the proper spell on normal, and by the time you face Heroic, you’ll be a-ok!

Felhounds: Nobody died. I got the Charhound. Can’t complain 😉 Ranged, be sure to stack tightly on the blue (ranged) marker unless you have the fire mechanics. This will prevent hardships on the healers, and is good practice for heroic, when fear becomes an issue.

Eonar: It’s hard to mess her up these days. Enjoy the free tier pieces!

Imonar: We had a few people who didn’t quite understand sleep canister, but repeating directions of where to stand or go, I could see that listening comprehension was pretty good in this group. We rearranged and moved together pretty well. Lasers were an issue – I had to call out too many people who needed to move to one side or another. Be sure to watch videos of this fight, and pay attention to your in-game warnings! We also had a ton of people simply plow over mechanics on the bridge back across. Much like on heroic, wait for tanks to go first (unless you’re REALLY self-assured).

Kin’garoth: Some of you died to avoidable mechanics like Ruiner. And not many were stacked properly. It’s incredibly important that after you dodge a mechanic, like Ruiner, you get back to blue as soon as possible. It is better for you to stop DPS and run, than to stop-go-stop-go and mess up the raid with bad Ruiner placement. This week was no problem, but next week, Raid Leads will be naming names on who is not standing in the right spot. It’s not about shaming you, it’s about making sure you can make things easier on the tanks, healers, and your fellow DPS. The other advantage to standing on blue is that when Ruiner comes out, you can run in the direction of where you’re supposed to go next. This is especially important on heroic – dodging Ruiner in the direction of Yellow or Purple will make it easier for you to get to that location when you need to, thus increasing your DPS output 🙂

High Command: NOBODY died? Woah. Great job, healers! And tanks and DPS, I guess. DPS, make sure to stack behind and to the left of the boss, and be sure to dodge bombs that get placed under your feet. Again, Raid Leads will be naming names in the future instead of making general comments. Again, not to shame, but just so you know to pick up your awareness on some things a little more.

Monday Logs

Final Thoughts

Congratulations everyone on a wonderful Raid Season and expansion in general. We started coming together this year for raids and I’m super proud of how far we’ve come. I know the other Raid Leads are as well. I know we’re all very excited for BFA and for Uldir, and I know you are too.

Please take a few minutes to read our plans for raiding until BFA launch and Uldir launch.

New guys, I hope you return. Veterans and old hats, thanks for sticking with us.

Here’s to an amazing Battle for Azeroth.

Raiding Changes in the Pre-Patch

Coming with stat-squish, pre-patch, and the “off-season”, we’ll be changing a few things in raids. First change will be until Battle for Azeroth drops, and the next will be until Uldir drops.

Raid Pre-Patch Schedule

First and foremost, we’re dropping down to 2 raid nights a week maximum until BfA. We’re dropping the Saturday raid (party animals rejoice!) and keeping the Monday normal night. Keeping our normal night will allow those who want to level alts, those who are returning to WoW, or those who are joining us for the first time, a chance to get gear and get into the habit of raiding with us.

We’re potentially keeping our Wednesday night raids for heroics. Bosses will be done “as requested”. We may not go for agg/argus. Due to stat squish, things on heroic may be way over- or under-tuned, especially as we adjust to our new talents, missing talents, missing artifact abilities, and more.

Keeping our Monday normal night also gives those of us struggling with the class changes a chance to adjust to them in structured content we’re already familiar with.

BFA Raiding Timeline and Schedule

This 1-2 nights continues until BfA launches. When BfA launches, we will be taking a break from raiding until Uldir drops, which will be 3 weeks after launch. Then Mythic will be opening. Around that point, we will be using the information from the BfA Raid Planning Spreadsheet to determine raid dates & times. Then the raid team will start focusing on raid progression again. This means that if you already filled out the sheet, but your schedule changes, you can update the sheet until we start prepping for raids in BfA.

Attendance

66% attendance to maintain Raider status is no longer mandatory until Uldir. I am putting a “freeze” on raid attendance until Uldir drops. This allows those who are burned out or who want to concentrate on other things in the pre-patch ample time to do whatever they please. If you have previously attained Raider status, you will keep it, unless you choose not to raid in BfA. As such, I am going to be wiping all attendance records for current Raiders, and no longer keeping track of them. This will clear up the Raid Attendance page significantly, as well as clean up the back-end for that page. It makes my life a lot easier!

Don’t worry! You can still earn Raider status until BfA launches. If you are a new or returning guild member, attending 5 regularly scheduled raids (not bonus “argus kill” raids – I don’t keep attendance at those) within a 1 month time will net you Raider status. This grants you more daily gold for repairs and greater esteem by others in the guild. Oh, and speaking of Raider rank…

Changes to Titles

Not too long ago, we created a Champion rank, for those in the guild who go above the regular expectations of members but don’t quite commit to, or fall into, the Raider and Veteran categories. Not long after, we created a Gladiator rank for the upcoming PvP team. Our Raiders were jealous – Champion and Gladiator are really cool titles! In order to appease whiners raise the level of badassery in the guild, we’ve renamed many Guild ranks.

Raid Leader has become Warlord
Raider has become Vanguard
Veteran has become Centurion
Officer has become Legati

Guild Assistant may be renamed as well. We’ll keep you updated.

Other Scheduled Activities until Uldir

Burned out on raiding? Bored of Antorus? Here are a few alternatives that can keep you active in the Ministry of Defense family. Being really active could even net you Champion!

Old Raid / Dungeon Achievements

Consider joining Bulborbish for Sunday Funday, and filling out his poll to determine what sort of achievements people would like to chase down.

PvP

Lunzzul is starting a PvP team. Fill out her spreadsheet to help determine what times and days would be best. No experience necessary!

Mythic Keystones

For now, Foxxie (Tiv) is continuing to run Mythic Keystones. After stat-squish, it’s going to be an excellent opportunity to hone your new or changed class skills and work together in small teams to figure out how changes to threat generation effect dungeons, in environments we’re already familiar with.

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